tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post7775011978731374657..comments2023-06-30T03:06:38.454-06:00Comments on A Girl, Books and Other Things: John Green and the Non ApologyAlexMathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12237838174438724003noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post-51608528188954257302015-02-25T21:26:29.457-06:002015-02-25T21:26:29.457-06:00Yeah, people are shitty on the internet. I would l...Yeah, people are shitty on the internet. I would lay the blame more on Tumblr specifically than the Nerdfighters though... Tumblr is often at the root of these bullying attacks.<br /><br />Let's just hope John and co. have learned their lesson, that they NEED to do their research before trying to make a profit out of it. I'm just glad he fixed the situation as soon as he found out (and that he actually went public with the whole thing, because you know most authors in that situation wouldn't have). But if he ever finds himself in the same situation again... well then that wouldn't be considered a mistake because he should know better now. And I would be a lot less forgiving then...Ayleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07639250102446794830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post-12404093537825914392015-02-25T20:15:10.726-06:002015-02-25T20:15:10.726-06:00I agree with you on this, he was never a favorite ...I agree with you on this, he was never a favorite of mine, and I really enjoyed reading what you thought of this. Thanks for sharing hun. Hope you are enjoying your week. Lover Of Romancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815249440754171341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post-45170810574686566622015-02-23T22:39:49.384-06:002015-02-23T22:39:49.384-06:00I had not heard about this at all! (Of course, I d...I had not heard about this at all! (Of course, I don't read John Green) This is truly egregious, but it's happened before-art history professors still teach that Marcel Duchamp made the R Mutt urinal sculpture when it's a well documented fact that a woman made it and Duchamp just took credit for it. /:Heidenkindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09494625457587427781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post-48003269732939749642015-02-23T22:10:52.370-06:002015-02-23T22:10:52.370-06:00It's all too strange to me, Small. From the fa...It's all too strange to me, Small. From the fact he couldn't remember having writing the stuff to that he had to pirate his own book but thats the story he's sticking to.<br /><br />It seems too little and kind of late to me, his video. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post-24056871048181465162015-02-23T22:08:00.875-06:002015-02-23T22:08:00.875-06:00I kind of like their educational videos - though I...I kind of like their educational videos - though I watch less and less of them as time goes on - but the way they handle the fandom has always seem a little iffy to me.<br /><br />And yeah, that's what I call ironyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post-73154192867282717782015-02-23T22:07:02.863-06:002015-02-23T22:07:02.863-06:00I think my problem with it is just how long it pas...I think my problem with it is just how long it passed, that the girl was harassed and that they went ahead and produced merch without ever stopping to check their facts. <br /><br />It just seems careless in the extreme considering their merch is often originated by young artists. It seems like they don't follow due process and that troubles me. <br /><br />Plus the Nerdfighter community in general and the Vlogbrothers in particular have been very blase about this and other bad stuff that has originated in the community in the past, so I'm less willing to cut them slack when they seem to be cutting themselves all sorts of it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post-75606349395843123782015-02-23T21:25:42.721-06:002015-02-23T21:25:42.721-06:00So. When I watched that video when it was released...So. When I watched that video when it was released, my reaction was to shrug and to be pleased with the way John handled it, to be honest. Reading your thoughts makes me question how I can just write this off so easily, but I find that I just feel genuinely good about his response. I don't need him to apologize to me. The important things to me are that a) he apologized to the girl, which he did, b) he knows that that was wrong, which he does, and c) that he's making sure that the girl is getting all the royalties and also supporting her and commissioning her to do other stuff, which he is absolutely doing. He has handled this far FAR better than other authors have in similar situations, that's for SURE, and none of them have been persecuted. Copyright can get pretty messy and this is just the kind of example of how quotes can be misattributed on the internet SO easily, and sadly it happens all the time. So I say kudos to John for handling this like an upstanding person.<br />(Though again, my blasé attitude about this in comparison to yours really DOES make me wonder whether I should be rethinking my beliefs a bit. Am I letting my bias for John get in the way? Probably. And just because he handled things far better than the majority of authors in his position, does that mean he gets a pass in comparison? No, he definitely could have and should have done more and done his research a bit more thoroughly before going ahead with merch. But what can I say, I appreciate people who admit that they are wrong and then do right by it like John is doing... Okay, I'm definitely ranting now and I'm going nowhere with this, so I'll stop here. Ack, copyright! What a messy subject).Ayleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07639250102446794830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post-75792937714326764272015-02-23T19:19:28.461-06:002015-02-23T19:19:28.461-06:00Well you know that I agree with you. I was never e...Well you know that I agree with you. I was never enthralled with John green like other people but I did respect him for always supporting YA and for what he and his brother have done with their educational videos. I find it kind of weird/ironic that he actually plans on doing a video on intellectual property.... Sandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18119179764394966859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587199149414696702.post-65415482674887498442015-02-23T18:18:26.943-06:002015-02-23T18:18:26.943-06:00I agree with you. I may be biased, because I'v...I agree with you. I may be biased, because I've never liked him, but it just seems very strange that this went on for years. Especially since the quote was used for merchandise. Wouldn't you double check that first? Even just to make sure the quote was exactly right? I like how you described the "non-apology" and an "oopsie" equivalent. You hit the nail on the head. Small Reviewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16072352095510905410noreply@blogger.com